Comments on: First Experiences with Windows Vista http://irfanhabib.com/blog/2007/02/18/first-experiences-with-windows-vista/ On Mac, Linux, Grid, Virtualization and Software Technology Tue, 24 Aug 2010 18:28:49 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Rent Movies Online http://irfanhabib.com/blog/2007/02/18/first-experiences-with-windows-vista/comment-page-1/#comment-455 Rent Movies Online Mon, 26 Feb 2007 01:46:05 +0000 http://irfan.phantomos-vi.com/?p=73#comment-455 <strong>Random Rants</strong> [...] I highly recommend that you check out this blog, I found it quite fascinating [...] Random Rants

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]]> By: Irfan Habib http://irfanhabib.com/blog/2007/02/18/first-experiences-with-windows-vista/comment-page-1/#comment-454 Irfan Habib Tue, 20 Feb 2007 04:43:12 +0000 http://irfan.phantomos-vi.com/?p=73#comment-454 @dopleganger unfortunately it won't let me play anything! It didnt recognize my Intel 865 hardware, it uses an internal sound card. The drivers are also not available from the Intel Website and the driver shipped with the motherboard only work upto windows server 2k3. Anyone installed Vista on 865 yet? @abu ameerah I dont know why microsoft focused their advertising dollars on Vista, maybe because the platform is so crucial to their success. But I really LOVE MS Office 2007. It has a huge GUI upgrade, and I personally feel a LOT more productive in the new Office. @dopleganger

unfortunately it won’t let me play anything! It didnt recognize my Intel 865 hardware, it uses an internal sound card. The drivers are also not available from the Intel Website and the driver shipped with the motherboard only work upto windows server 2k3.

Anyone installed Vista on 865 yet?

@abu ameerah
I dont know why microsoft focused their advertising dollars on Vista, maybe because the platform is so crucial to their success.
But I really LOVE MS Office 2007. It has a huge GUI upgrade, and I personally feel a LOT more productive in the new Office.

]]> By: Michael Perry http://irfanhabib.com/blog/2007/02/18/first-experiences-with-windows-vista/comment-page-1/#comment-448 Michael Perry Mon, 19 Feb 2007 23:56:32 +0000 http://irfan.phantomos-vi.com/?p=73#comment-448 I've been running Vista since beta 2 and through the RCs on a rather nice AMD64 box with a 256mb nvidia card and 2g of nice memory. The install took me about 15 minutes more or less I would think. The longest thing is adding the applications I often use. I use Linux a lot but mostly Debian and Ubuntu. I think Vista is interesting and fun but its not a huge leap forward in productivity or use case factors. Some things really irritate me with it like UAC which I just turn off since many of my so-called legacy applications (Xara Xtreme) will not install correctly. When I first started out with Vista, it was hard to find things like Antivirus programs. And you still need to add those kinds of programs for obvious reasons. Updates occur much like with windows xp updates however, I've noticed that often the updater does not spin around for minutes like with XP. Talking about updates though, Ubuntu now wants a few hundred mb of updates with edgy as well. By the time I add the sources.list for the programs I really want, the updates are up there. Someone mentioned the installer. On Ubuntu Edgy and Dapper, the installer insisted on setting up X for a card on the motherboard I had disabled in the bios. Vista caught that and installed the right PCI-X card. However, the Vista support by Nvidia is kinda sucky. I get blue screens trying to upgrade the nvidia drivers every so often on Vista. So my take is mixed. Vista is not leaps and bounds but I like some of it. Ubuntu Edgy takes a lot of updates too to get things. I like the aero and glass look in Vista. I don't use beryl in Ubuntu. Windows boxes for me are disposable desktops and I still boot a w2kpro box here. For things like managing virtual machines in VMware Server, I use Debian Etch. I’ve been running Vista since beta 2 and through the RCs on a rather nice AMD64 box with a 256mb nvidia card and 2g of nice memory. The install took me about 15 minutes more or less I would think. The longest thing is adding the applications I often use. I use Linux a lot but mostly Debian and Ubuntu. I think Vista is interesting and fun but its not a huge leap forward in productivity or use case factors. Some things really irritate me with it like UAC which I just turn off since many of my so-called legacy applications (Xara Xtreme) will not install correctly.

When I first started out with Vista, it was hard to find things like Antivirus programs. And you still need to add those kinds of programs for obvious reasons. Updates occur much like with windows xp updates however, I’ve noticed that often the updater does not spin around for minutes like with XP.

Talking about updates though, Ubuntu now wants a few hundred mb of updates with edgy as well. By the time I add the sources.list for the programs I really want, the updates are up there.

Someone mentioned the installer. On Ubuntu Edgy and Dapper, the installer insisted on setting up X for a card on the motherboard I had disabled in the bios. Vista caught that and installed the right PCI-X card. However, the Vista support by Nvidia is kinda sucky. I get blue screens trying to upgrade the nvidia drivers every so often on Vista.

So my take is mixed. Vista is not leaps and bounds but I like some of it. Ubuntu Edgy takes a lot of updates too to get things. I like the aero and glass look in Vista. I don’t use beryl in Ubuntu. Windows boxes for me are disposable desktops and I still boot a w2kpro box here. For things like managing virtual machines in VMware Server, I use Debian Etch.

]]> By: António Pedro http://irfanhabib.com/blog/2007/02/18/first-experiences-with-windows-vista/comment-page-1/#comment-447 António Pedro Mon, 19 Feb 2007 22:34:48 +0000 http://irfan.phantomos-vi.com/?p=73#comment-447 As António Roque, I too notice I spend much more time using Linux (Ubuntu Edgy 6.10, for that matter) than Windows... I only use windows when I want to play a game, or when I take my laptop to school and some one needs to use it for a while... At home, I have my both my laptop and the family's desktop set up to dualboot Windows + Ubuntu. In the Desktop, I use only Ubuntu, and my family uses only Windows... The laptop, being the system that's truly mine, has windows installed merely for games... If it weren't for games, I'd have only linux! Besides, in Ubuntu, i'm using VirtualBox, which allows me to test certain Windows programs that do not work well (or at all) under Wine... Actually, VirtualBox is extremely fast, there's no need for me to reboot into windows unless I want to play a game. As for the eyecandy... XGL/AIGLX + Beryl really do kick Vista's ass... with a smaller performance hit :P As António Roque, I too notice I spend much more time using Linux (Ubuntu Edgy 6.10, for that matter) than Windows… I only use windows when I want to play a game, or when I take my laptop to school and some one needs to use it for a while… At home, I have my both my laptop and the family’s desktop set up to dualboot Windows + Ubuntu.

In the Desktop, I use only Ubuntu, and my family uses only Windows… The laptop, being the system that’s truly mine, has windows installed merely for games… If it weren’t for games, I’d have only linux!

Besides, in Ubuntu, i’m using VirtualBox, which allows me to test certain Windows programs that do not work well (or at all) under Wine… Actually, VirtualBox is extremely fast, there’s no need for me to reboot into windows unless I want to play a game.

As for the eyecandy… XGL/AIGLX + Beryl really do kick Vista’s ass… with a smaller performance hit :P

]]> By: abu ameerah http://irfanhabib.com/blog/2007/02/18/first-experiences-with-windows-vista/comment-page-1/#comment-446 abu ameerah Mon, 19 Feb 2007 22:01:47 +0000 http://irfan.phantomos-vi.com/?p=73#comment-446 nice post. i think i hate Vista...i can't help but feel that it is a scam (like other Microsoft products)... anyway...i'll still go with XP nice post. i think i hate Vista…i can’t help but feel that it is a scam (like other Microsoft products)…

anyway…i’ll still go with XP

]]> By: dopleganger http://irfanhabib.com/blog/2007/02/18/first-experiences-with-windows-vista/comment-page-1/#comment-445 dopleganger Mon, 19 Feb 2007 21:52:20 +0000 http://irfan.phantomos-vi.com/?p=73#comment-445 let us know if windows vista will let you playy pirated music. let us know if windows vista will let you playy pirated music.

]]> By: John http://irfanhabib.com/blog/2007/02/18/first-experiences-with-windows-vista/comment-page-1/#comment-453 John Mon, 19 Feb 2007 17:27:12 +0000 http://irfan.phantomos-vi.com/?p=73#comment-453 I agree with you. Mac os is definitely better than vista. Even this article says, http://www.vistahunt.com/vista-versus-mac-os.html If you want to check difference between Xp & Vista, check this article. http://www.vistahunt.com/compare-windws-xp-with-windows-vista.html regards I agree with you. Mac os is definitely better than vista. Even this article says,

http://www.vistahunt.com/vista-versus-mac-os.html

If you want to check difference between Xp & Vista, check this article.

http://www.vistahunt.com/compare-windws-xp-with-windows-vista.html

regards

]]> By: Roque http://irfanhabib.com/blog/2007/02/18/first-experiences-with-windows-vista/comment-page-1/#comment-452 Roque Mon, 19 Feb 2007 16:30:35 +0000 http://irfan.phantomos-vi.com/?p=73#comment-452 I´m not a linux geek (very new in linux wold), also I´m not a windows Geek, just some one that needs to have a pc at home. I´m using Ms OS´s since ever, the Microsoft products in Europe are extremely expensive, always had been, reason why (I´m shame to say but it is truth) I used pirate versions, in last the two years I have followed very close ubuntu, only about 8 months ago i assembled a 2 PC for me with linux, the new one is for the kids they need to have windows OS for the school IT (Information Tecnology class) home work. Ubuntu for as came across a long way, I remenber a few years a ago the first time that a friend give me Suse cdrom ... Who would say in that time,that today I´m using must of time at home in linux . I would like to say that I make every thing .... I repeat... I make every thing I need at home with the Ubuntu linux and the applications that have available on it . I´m not a linux geek, cannot test all distros ... I do not have time for that . Ubuntu distro so far is the one I need, the support from the community is wonderful, have read a lot about linux vs windows ... this is not the real issue . The real issue is the fact that no one can deny that more and more people like me are starting to use linux, why ... because it´s not about MS or BSD or Linux or MAC, its about what the people need, and what "people like me" can do with it. "people like me" means people that don´t known what is su command or what is the "command line" thank you for your time Antonio Roque I´m not a linux geek (very new in linux wold), also I´m not a windows Geek, just some one that needs to have a pc at home.

I´m using Ms OS´s since ever, the Microsoft products in Europe are extremely expensive, always had been, reason why (I´m shame to say but it is truth) I used pirate versions, in last the two years I have followed very close ubuntu, only about 8 months ago i assembled a 2 PC for me with linux, the new one is for the kids they need to have windows OS for the school IT (Information Tecnology class) home work.

Ubuntu for as came across a long way, I remenber a few years a ago the first time that a friend give me Suse cdrom …
Who would say in that time,that today I´m using must of time at home in linux .
I would like to say that I make every thing …. I repeat… I make every thing I need at home with the Ubuntu linux and the applications that have available on it .

I´m not a linux geek, cannot test all distros … I do not have time for that .

Ubuntu distro so far is the one I need, the support from the community is wonderful, have read a lot about linux vs windows … this is not the real issue .

The real issue is the fact that no one can deny that more and more people like me are starting to use linux, why … because it´s not about MS or BSD or Linux or MAC, its about what the people need, and what “people like me” can do with it.

“people like me” means people that don´t known what is su command or what is the “command line”

thank you for your time
Antonio Roque

]]> By: EmyrB http://irfanhabib.com/blog/2007/02/18/first-experiences-with-windows-vista/comment-page-1/#comment-451 EmyrB Mon, 19 Feb 2007 13:26:37 +0000 http://irfan.phantomos-vi.com/?p=73#comment-451 Like you I recently went from Windows XP to Windows Vista at work and I have to say my experiences have been really mixed. I must agree with both you and Jeff that there is nothing more here than Windows XP has to offer. It is a shame really, a closed source OS that was 5 years in the making does not offer anything "jazzy", but a open source OS with a six month release cycle can offer us leaps and bounds with innovation, the LiveCD is a good example of this. The hardest part now for me, is to learn all the foibles of Vista so I can support the end users in my organization. Like you I recently went from Windows XP to Windows Vista at work and I have to say my experiences have been really mixed. I must agree with both you and Jeff that there is nothing more here than Windows XP has to offer. It is a shame really, a closed source OS that was 5 years in the making does not offer anything “jazzy”, but a open source OS with a six month release cycle can offer us leaps and bounds with innovation, the LiveCD is a good example of this.

The hardest part now for me, is to learn all the foibles of Vista so I can support the end users in my organization.

]]> By: Jeff Ventura http://irfanhabib.com/blog/2007/02/18/first-experiences-with-windows-vista/comment-page-1/#comment-450 Jeff Ventura Mon, 19 Feb 2007 03:54:18 +0000 http://irfan.phantomos-vi.com/?p=73#comment-450 Good post. I blog about Vista pretty prominently, but more compared to OSX rather than Linux. Having used Vista for a while myself, I agree with your assessment. It's good, but nothing terribly noteworthy over XP. At least not yet. Maybe the .NET 3.0 framework that's included with Vista will lead to some interesting apps down the road. Your and my opinion don't stand alone: recently, a <a href="http://gracefulflavor.net/2007/02/08/windows-guru-chooses-a-mac-permanently/" rel="nofollow">very prominent Windows guru working at Computerworld switched to a Mac -- for good</a>. That's quite a testament not only to the Mac, but also to what Vista *isn't*. Good post. Jeff Ventura Graceful Flavor (http://gracefulflavor.net) Good post. I blog about Vista pretty prominently, but more compared to OSX rather than Linux. Having used Vista for a while myself, I agree with your assessment. It’s good, but nothing terribly noteworthy over XP. At least not yet. Maybe the .NET 3.0 framework that’s included with Vista will lead to some interesting apps down the road.

Your and my opinion don’t stand alone: recently, a very prominent Windows guru working at Computerworld switched to a Mac — for good. That’s quite a testament not only to the Mac, but also to what Vista *isn’t*.

Good post.

Jeff Ventura
Graceful Flavor (http://gracefulflavor.net)

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