Comments on: Firefox vs. IceWeasel; open source is still the winner, or is it??

By: PiousMinion

PiousMinion — Sun, 30 Sep 2007 14:37:54 +0000

Actually, debian referred with the Mozilla.org team on this and it is the Mozilla.org team which refused to let debian use the firefox logo and name.

Please actually read the available information on the subject before posting negative blogs and comments about it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naming_conflict_between_Debian_and_Mozilla

By: Johannes Wiedersich

Johannes Wiedersich — Wed, 19 Sep 2007 16:08:48 +0000

You havn’t understood Debian. Debian is about free software and a *stable* OS. Firefox introduces new features alongside security fixes; Debian values stability. Therefore the Debian developers don’t fix security issues by upgrading, but by backporting. Mozilla’s licenze does not allow this along with the logos, therfore the fork.

It is good that there are a few people around who care about principles and stand firm to theirs!

By: SUparJErk

SUparJErk — Tue, 07 Aug 2007 17:34:55 +0000

“If such patches are applied they should be applied to the main source tree aswell, so that Firefox and all its distribution specific derivatives have all the same functionality.”

Yeah, unfortunately, Mozilla didn’t play along with that idea. The problem here lies with Mozilla/Firefox, not with Debian/IceWeasel. Don’t put the blame on IceWeasel.

Also, while you’re probably right about Sun OpenSourcing Java, you can’t really compare it to the situation. Web browsers and programming languages are very different things. Different web browsers don’t absolutely require the level of standardization as programming languages do, so don’t make it sound so horrible if someone wants to create a branch of a product and make it better. That’s the spirit of Open Source, and does not deserve to be criticized.

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By: Barbara

Barbara — Wed, 10 Jan 2007 18:57:23 +0000

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By: angryfirelord

angryfirelord — Thu, 23 Nov 2006 20:16:15 +0000

The whole Firefox logo thing isn’t an open-source issue, it’s more of a Debain issue. The problem is that Debian believes that EVERYTHING should be free and re-distributable, which is not a bad thing, but it’s a little too far with the Firefox logo.

Sun did release Java under the GPL, making it open source, but I believe the effect will be the opposite. What this will allow is a stable platform to code on. The one issue with Linux is that because it’s open source, a lot of programming languages are used which can create issues for people who wish to code or fix bugs. Having Java as a centralized platform is a good thing. I don’t see any reason to create a fork of it, which would be hard to do.

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By: lemon obrien

lemon obrien — Tue, 17 Oct 2006 02:34:21 +0000

i think the open source community should just shut the fuck up and code; who really gives a fuck; none of these products are really that good…and with all the BS in-fighting over nothing; what good is it anyway?